Chests & keys: rant or praise - Page 4 - Guild Wars Forums

Blue Steel · Sep 12, 2005, 08:22 PM // 20:22

Excellent point, Sentinel - I mistyped that sentence (typing too fast). Let me fix it: There is absolutely nothing fun for me about waiting in a literal line to open a chest for garbage worth a sixth of what you paid for the key to open the chest in a gaming gold sink.
I hope that fits. I think we agree on every point. Play the lotto if you love it, but remember a wise statistician once said the lotto is nothing more than a tax imposed upon people who are bad at math. That quote gets triple winks.

Sentinel · Sep 12, 2005, 08:32 PM // 20:32

triple winks ehh..... I feel special...lol

I don't play lotto but i admit from time to time I watch Nascar because....ummm... well..... becuase it's fun when they crash

Sent.-

tuskenraid · Sep 12, 2005, 09:17 PM // 21:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by sixdartbart

point #1 who ever said you needed a max gold weapon that will cost over 100k? you said it yourself "wanted" if you are mearly a casual gamer that is fine and that is why they put in collectors that have weapons with perfect stats. you can play the game with no disadvantage and the rest are only vanity items...... Point #2 nobody is forcing you to deal with The "psyco-farmer" see point #1.....Point # 3 all of the trades that you seem to be talking about are in a player based market that was made by the players and does not go through the trader system in the game. If you beleive that nothing should cost more than 10k I would suspect that is because you don't have more than that because you were or are not as interested in gaining wealth as others, but I don't understand the interest in making sure that they do not have the right to decide for themselves the value of the items that they might "WANT". This whole arguement from the people that don't like someone having more than they do is silly. And as I have already stated in this thread what I may or may not have does not affect your gameplay in the least so please stop bitching about (someone has more shinny stuff than I do)!

WOW... just wow!!! Have you not taken your happy pills today??? That's a lot of angst and effort for something you clearly didn't understand.

I was not/am not "bitching" about people having more stuff than me. I applaud the tenacious individuals who have the time and energy to go get it all. I have only ever wanted what my own PVE characters could use, and to unlock items for PvP. I could care less what other people have.

You're absolutely right, I don't need a max gold weapon. However, if your attention span had allowed you concentrate a little harder, you would have noticed that I also said I enjoyed the thrill of "finding" a gold or purple item. If I acquired what I needed versus what I wanted I would never have bought the 15K Enchanter set that I currently have on my mesmer. It looks cool... therefore I want it... don't need it, but want it.

My response was actually to the OP who originally asked if the chests were good or bad. I was acknowledging that they are good and listing my reasons why. You see, to a degree, I was forced to deal with the psycho-farmer because drops were so lousy. Being as I would rather play than farm, my preference not everyones, I very rarely came upon drops that were any good. By the way unlocks are a need not a want for me, and I don't particularly enjoying farming faction.

Now, with the chests, I don't have to buy those 50K or higher items from someone who decided that that was what is was worth. I can go get my own and not deal with traders (the human ones) at all. Yay for me. Yay for a lot of people who feel the same way. Sure, I still end up spending several K and it's a gamble as to which unlock or neat looking item I get, but that's peachy with me. I enjoy vanity items as much as the next person, but I also happen to be thrifty with my relatively small fortune. Excuse me for spending my money the way I want to instead of filling someone else's coffers for item that isn't worth the asking price.

Oh, hate to do this but it's shiny, not shinny.

Human slayer · Sep 12, 2005, 10:43 PM // 22:43

"before there was complaining on chests harvest... now we have a new problem and that is more seriouse than the first one we did have....

if you are a warrior you can get money more easly and you can harvest keys more easly and have bigger chance to get good items without much effort. instead of all having equal chests harvesting for all, now others that is not warriors must work their ass of to get money for keys, and in most cases there is just crap to find in these chests, this is not fair....." -DxaKrator

Personally i dont think u know what ur talking about, just because warriors can farm certain places that other classes have harder time with ur taking it out on warriors, why r u being jealous, why dont u prove ppl wrong and solo with different class, no one is stopping u. I am a Warrior and i used 10 keys and got 2 gold items.... then i switched to my monk used the same amount of keys in the same places and got all purple items....this doesnt prove anything only that its a GAMBLE not a free hand-out of really good items!

tuskenraid · Sep 12, 2005, 11:21 PM // 23:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by Human slayer

"before there was complaining on chests harvest... now we have a new problem and that is more seriouse than the first one we did have....

if you are a warrior you can get money more easly and you can harvest keys more easly and have bigger chance to get good items without much effort. instead of all having equal chests harvesting for all, now others that is not warriors must work their ass of to get money for keys, and in most cases there is just crap to find in these chests, this is not fair....." -DxaKrator

Personally i dont think u know what ur talking about, just because warriors can farm certain places that other classes have harder time with ur taking it out on warriors, why r u being jealous, why dont u prove ppl wrong and solo with different class, no one is stopping u. I am a Warrior and i used 10 keys and got 2 gold items.... then i switched to my monk used the same amount of keys in the same places and got all purple items....this doesnt prove anything only that its a GAMBLE not a free hand-out of really good items!

Agreed. If you need gold farm areas that are class appropriate. Besides, just running through shiverpeaks, taking normal enemy drops and then selling them to merchants has worked really well for me. Also, salvaging for matierals gains a lot of gold. If I spend 600 for a key, run through half of GF and go back to DWC, I can easily sell my drops (non-chest ones) for at least 600. No loss, no gain, but I get to keep opening new chests and get all sorts of goodies. Even a crap chest drop can sell to a merchant for 100 or more gold. There is no favoritism here. The chests have equalized the playing field for a lot of us. My mesmer is very happy.

easyhand21 · Sep 13, 2005, 02:55 AM // 02:55

I happen to like the chests... after today! I got a superior vigor and a superior absorption rune today on one run in shiverpeaks.

Jack Lost · Sep 13, 2005, 03:06 AM // 03:06

chests are great!

i dont spend much money on keys though i just buy 1 key for a mission or an area where i need to explore. usually turns out pretty well, but i think its a real waste to buy the keys for the ascalons-maguuma jungle keys, the drops there arent that good. get keys for the mursaat missions though i got so many gold mursaat hammers from those missions.

Warskull · Sep 13, 2005, 06:08 AM // 06:08

The new chest system is clearly a gold sink. However it does fail to take into account that the Guild Wars economy is heavily fueled by stupidity. The prices for gold items will remain high for quite some time because people see other people trying to sell them for ridiculous amounts. Even if no one will buy them at the price stated they still try and sell them for ridiculous amounts. A good example is the gold armor farmers trying to sell their items for 7k still. They fail to take into account I can now unlock an entire line of runes in an hour of arena play or the fact that golds armors commonly drop from chests. Another good example is all the people trying to sell the various flint greens for 10-20k. Even 5k is a stretch for these items (water eles are extremely rare in PvE.) Outside of a few dim players no one is paying the ridiculous asking prices. However I don't think the playerbase is smart enough to figure out people won't buy their items at the over-inflated prices and lower them.

The one change the chest system could use is a change in the key drops. Golds drop more often than the keys now. Having the occasional key drop would be nice and delight most players. A little more often than once in a blue moon would be a good thing.

burai · Sep 13, 2005, 07:44 AM // 07:44

I love the idea, but chests seem to be as rare as hen's teeth. If I don't have a key I keep tripping over chests, but when I have one - not a sausage. Just bad luck?

WTS: 2 Maguuma keys

But I still love the keys thing. I don't know - it just seems a bit more RPGish.

Daegul Mistweaver · Sep 13, 2005, 04:09 PM // 16:09

I'd have to agree with Blue on the fact that the new chest/key system is very healthy for the economy; although I'm looking more in the direction of points brought up by Tuksan to support this.

As Tuskan pointed out, the very nice items (read: items that have the graphic/look you want but are only as good as a collector version) are out of reach for the casual player. They are also out of reach for new players without mounds of time on their hands to "catch up". Sure, no one "needs" these items; but if having one makes the game more fun for you then there should be a means to aquire it without investing heaps of time. Why? Because you having that happy item doesn't effect game balance in any way (due to the availability of collectors items and Droknar's armor).

Not only do chest provide an avenue for the casual and poor to get these items on their own, annother (but related) issue is being adressed at the same time. The main reason that such "happy items" are as pricy as they are is the amount of raw gold floating around in the economy. Aside from 15 plat armor and black dye(personally I think dye should be free, but that's neither here nor there) there really were no other avenues for gold to exit the ecomomy. Look at Pain's post back on page 1; 60 plat just left the economy, 1-5% of which is all that would have left before the update...the rest would might have left Pain's bank, but only to be relocated to the bank of annother player. Players who've accumulated 100s of plat now have something entertaining to spend it on, which should result in prices dropping rapidly; add to that the effect of both more golds in the system and players finding thier "happy item" on their own, and you have the price of nice golds dropping steadily.

I'm hoping that this will also bring down the price of ectos and shards; but it may well be that those particular stocks will remain the last bastion of the super-rich and actually increase in price. Time will tell.

Edit: I thought I'd toss out that previous to the update, my primary method of aquiring gold was running chests in Whitman's Folley. I wasn't a serious farmer(never had more than 15 plat at a time), but I'd run there when funds were low and gather gold for an hour and be good for days. So while I think the new system is good and healthy, I've yet to benefit from it personally.

tuskenraid · Sep 13, 2005, 04:26 PM // 16:26

Thank you Daegul for understanding my comments in the right context. The new chest system is great. Let me tell you what happened last night. I thought I would go and see if I could get some of those new nifty green items (didn't happen, but had a blast trying) so I thought, well, I should have some keys with me. I bought 5 shiverpeak keys and 2 miner keys, for about 4.5K. Ran around with henchies, killed everything I could find from DWC to the entrance to SF. Went in to SF and killed everything infront of locked areas. Unlocked a few chest, killed a bunch of bosses and picked up everything that dropped for me. How did it all end? Perfectly. I got absolutely nothing of useable value for my character. So why am I happy? Well, I got some cool weapons for my warrior and a great bow for my Ranger. I unlocked some runes and mod items. I salvaged a few things, the items that give iron or steel ingots, and sold everything else. I had 2 identical purple jeweled chalices that were worthless to use but sold for 300g a piece. After I purged my inventory of stuff I picked up I was able to deposit into my storage exactly 5K. I made 500g and I still have 3 shiverpeak keys left, and I unlocked a bunch of stuff.

I truly feel that this is how Anet intended the game to be played. Master your skills, enjoy the game, and put within reach the ability to have a useful PvP character. I am having so much more fun now than I have in a while.

Thorin · Sep 13, 2005, 11:22 PM // 23:22

I like the chests myself. Rarely did any of the old chests drop anything worth a damn. It's like gambling in Diablo 2. Most of the items will be crappy, but then you'll eventually get that awesome item, and it makes it all worth it.

MSecorsky · Sep 13, 2005, 11:23 PM // 23:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by tuskenraid

Thank you Daegul for understanding my comments in the right context. The new chest system is great. Let me tell you what happened last night. I thought I would go and see if I could get some of those new nifty green items (didn't happen, but had a blast trying) so I thought, well, I should have some keys with me. I bought 5 shiverpeak keys and 2 miner keys, for about 4.5K. Ran around with henchies, killed everything I could find from DWC to the entrance to SF. Went in to SF and killed everything infront of locked areas. Unlocked a few chest, killed a bunch of bosses and picked up everything that dropped for me. How did it all end? Perfectly. I got absolutely nothing of useable value for my character. So why am I happy? Well, I got some cool weapons for my warrior and a great bow for my Ranger. I unlocked some runes and mod items. I salvaged a few things, the items that give iron or steel ingots, and sold everything else. I had 2 identical purple jeweled chalices that were worthless to use but sold for 300g a piece. After I purged my inventory of stuff I picked up I was able to deposit into my storage exactly 5K. I made 500g and I still have 3 shiverpeak keys left, and I unlocked a bunch of stuff.

I truly feel that this is how Anet intended the game to be played. Master your skills, enjoy the game, and put within reach the ability to have a useful PvP character. I am having so much more fun now than I have in a while.

It's refreshing to read a post from someone that gets it.

Cat Tabby · Sep 13, 2005, 11:38 PM // 23:38

I love the keys and chests; why? because now i have some money. I have put in hundreds of hours on guildwars; completed the game with 2 chars and had a lot of fun. But I had never been able to afford half the decent items ppl sell in game. The best drop i had ever had was a gold hammer i sold for 8 k, and the most money i ever had at one time was about 40 k, and thats not for want of trying.

Since the update I have bought about 10 shiverpeak keys and a few miners keys. Most have been not great but usable stuff, but I have unlocked loads of mods and runes. Two chests however were great. One gave me superior vigor, which I had already unlocked with faction, and i sold for 32 k. The other gave me a sword with +30 health mod, which i salvaged and sold for 75 k. I now have about 150k.

Getting fissure armor now seems like a plausible be it distant possibility for me, and i am much more enthusiatic about going to the fow or uw. In short, the chests have opened up a whole new part of the game for me, aside from sorrows, which i also like. And thanks to the new green weapons, i dont have to spend stupid money on weapon mods, because I have a perfect weapon.

The milk shake · Sep 14, 2005, 12:23 AM // 00:23

with the new key thing, its easy to get money but its EXTREMELY boring. Farming is like gone now, since its so mch easier to use a key to get gold, its like the crap runescape 100% of your time online farming for gold thing

prime stinger · Sep 15, 2005, 09:41 PM // 21:41

he best chests i think are the ones kilroy gives you, i got a max req 9 crystalline with +11%dmg in a stance so i think there the best, and if u dont belive come and have a loo k at it :P

Warskull · Sep 15, 2005, 09:45 PM // 21:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by The milk shake

with the new key thing, its easy to get money but its EXTREMELY boring. Farming is like gone now, since its so mch easier to use a key to get gold, its like the crap runescape 100% of your time online farming for gold thing

The higher level keys cost 600+ each. The golds sell for 200-300 each to the merchant. Unless you have a very specific few gold items or parts they won't sell very well at all. Try to sell a while hexed or +Dam<50% weapon or a necro or mesmer staff. It just won't happen. You lose money on the venture for the most part.

Amused Observer · Sep 16, 2005, 03:38 AM // 03:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sentinel

Haven't been in fissure since the update. Racthoh, are you getting items mormaly found in fissure in those chests (chaos axes, shadow stuff etc) or other items as well?
1.5k you say??...Suddenly 400 or 650 looks like a bargain

Sent.-

I finally got around to doing a FoW run today (whenever I was able to spend quality time online, America didn't have favor :/). And opened 2 chests at forgemaster tower. One drop was a nifty gold staff that unlocked 2 items for me. The second was a purple chaos axe; it's actually the first one i've encountered that wasn't white or blue in the five dozen or so runs I've done in FoW (pre and post update).

Very interesting chest drops in fow. I saw someone get a rare shadow shield; first time I've seen it. Can't complain.

Amused Observer · Sep 16, 2005, 03:50 AM // 03:50

I personally luv the chest-n-key system. Pre-update, I've had a ton of instances where I ran up to a chest, opened it, and got . . . nothing. T_T

I agree that the price of keys is an issue for most casual players, who wouldn't farm enough to build up a cash hoard to afford those higher end keys (think Phantom & Obsidian). But nonetheless, I appreciate this new system for mainly this reason: it allows the casual player a better chance of unlocking items for pvp; and I do believe the system was implemented by AN partly to allow players to unlock items for pvp more easily. If so, it's working.

Pandora's box · Sep 17, 2005, 02:23 PM // 14:23

Its a new way of gambling, nice for those who have too much gold

What I would like to know: Are more expensive chests dropping better stuff? Or better odds for good stuff? What makes the difference?

Sep 13, 2005, 04:09 PM // 16:09	#70
Daegul Mistweaver Krytan Explorer Join Date: Aug 2005 Guild: The Incredible Edible Bookah [YUM] Profession: W/N	I'd have to agree with Blue on the fact that the new chest/key system is very healthy for the economy; although I'm looking more in the direction of points brought up by Tuksan to support this. As Tuskan pointed out, the very nice items (read: items that have the graphic/look you want but are only as good as a collector version) are out of reach for the casual player. They are also out of reach for new players without mounds of time on their hands to "catch up". Sure, no one "needs" these items; but if having one makes the game more fun for you then there should be a means to aquire it without investing heaps of time. Why? Because you having that happy item doesn't effect game balance in any way (due to the availability of collectors items and Droknar's armor). Not only do chest provide an avenue for the casual and poor to get these items on their own, annother (but related) issue is being adressed at the same time. The main reason that such "happy items" are as pricy as they are is the amount of raw gold floating around in the economy. Aside from 15 plat armor and black dye(personally I think dye should be free, but that's neither here nor there) there really were no other avenues for gold to exit the ecomomy. Look at Pain's post back on page 1; 60 plat just left the economy, 1-5% of which is all that would have left before the update...the rest would might have left Pain's bank, but only to be relocated to the bank of annother player. Players who've accumulated 100s of plat now have something entertaining to spend it on, which should result in prices dropping rapidly; add to that the effect of both more golds in the system and players finding thier "happy item" on their own, and you have the price of nice golds dropping steadily. I'm hoping that this will also bring down the price of ectos and shards; but it may well be that those particular stocks will remain the last bastion of the super-rich and actually increase in price. Time will tell. Edit: I thought I'd toss out that previous to the update, my primary method of aquiring gold was running chests in Whitman's Folley. I wasn't a serious farmer(never had more than 15 plat at a time), but I'd run there when funds were low and gather gold for an hour and be good for days. So while I think the new system is good and healthy, I've yet to benefit from it personally. Last edited by Daegul Mistweaver; Sep 13, 2005 at 04:12 PM // 16:12.. Reason: Added info.

Sep 12, 2005, 08:22 PM // 20:22	#61
Blue Steel Jungle Guide Join Date: Jun 2005 Guild: The Blue Empire [BLUE] Profession: W/Mo	Excellent point, Sentinel - I mistyped that sentence (typing too fast). Let me fix it: There is absolutely nothing fun for me about waiting in a literal line to open a chest for garbage worth a sixth of what you paid for the key to open the chest in a gaming gold sink. I hope that fits. I think we agree on every point. Play the lotto if you love it, but remember a wise statistician once said the lotto is nothing more than a tax imposed upon people who are bad at math. That quote gets triple winks.

Sep 12, 2005, 08:32 PM // 20:32	#62
Sentinel Academy Page Join Date: May 2005 Location: Somerset, NJ Guild: aB	triple winks ehh..... I feel special...lol I don't play lotto but i admit from time to time I watch Nascar because....ummm... well..... becuase it's fun when they crash Sent.-

Sep 12, 2005, 10:43 PM // 22:43	#64
Human slayer Academy Page Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Kentucky, USA Guild: Passionate Kiss of Life [KISS] Profession: W/	"before there was complaining on chests harvest... now we have a new problem and that is more seriouse than the first one we did have.... if you are a warrior you can get money more easly and you can harvest keys more easly and have bigger chance to get good items without much effort. instead of all having equal chests harvesting for all, now others that is not warriors must work their ass of to get money for keys, and in most cases there is just crap to find in these chests, this is not fair....." -DxaKrator Personally i dont think u know what ur talking about, just because warriors can farm certain places that other classes have harder time with ur taking it out on warriors, why r u being jealous, why dont u prove ppl wrong and solo with different class, no one is stopping u. I am a Warrior and i used 10 keys and got 2 gold items.... then i switched to my monk used the same amount of keys in the same places and got all purple items....this doesnt prove anything only that its a GAMBLE not a free hand-out of really good items!

Sep 13, 2005, 02:55 AM // 02:55	#66
easyhand21 Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: Jun 2005 Guild: Blood Order of the Sword Profession: Me/E	I happen to like the chests... after today! I got a superior vigor and a superior absorption rune today on one run in shiverpeaks.

Sep 13, 2005, 03:06 AM // 03:06	#67
Jack Lost Academy Page Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: forest of living nightmares Guild: peacekeepers of tyria[PKOT]	chests are great! i dont spend much money on keys though i just buy 1 key for a mission or an area where i need to explore. usually turns out pretty well, but i think its a real waste to buy the keys for the ascalons-maguuma jungle keys, the drops there arent that good. get keys for the mursaat missions though i got so many gold mursaat hammers from those missions.

Sep 13, 2005, 06:08 AM // 06:08	#68
Warskull Site Contributor Join Date: Jul 2005 Guild: [out]	The new chest system is clearly a gold sink. However it does fail to take into account that the Guild Wars economy is heavily fueled by stupidity. The prices for gold items will remain high for quite some time because people see other people trying to sell them for ridiculous amounts. Even if no one will buy them at the price stated they still try and sell them for ridiculous amounts. A good example is the gold armor farmers trying to sell their items for 7k still. They fail to take into account I can now unlock an entire line of runes in an hour of arena play or the fact that golds armors commonly drop from chests. Another good example is all the people trying to sell the various flint greens for 10-20k. Even 5k is a stretch for these items (water eles are extremely rare in PvE.) Outside of a few dim players no one is paying the ridiculous asking prices. However I don't think the playerbase is smart enough to figure out people won't buy their items at the over-inflated prices and lower them. The one change the chest system could use is a change in the key drops. Golds drop more often than the keys now. Having the occasional key drop would be nice and delight most players. A little more often than once in a blue moon would be a good thing.

Sep 13, 2005, 07:44 AM // 07:44	#69
burai Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: May 2005 Location: Fishermen's Haven Profession: W/	I love the idea, but chests seem to be as rare as hen's teeth. If I don't have a key I keep tripping over chests, but when I have one - not a sausage. Just bad luck? WTS: 2 Maguuma keys But I still love the keys thing. I don't know - it just seems a bit more RPGish.

Sep 13, 2005, 04:26 PM // 16:26	#71
tuskenraid Academy Page Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: SoCal	Thank you Daegul for understanding my comments in the right context. The new chest system is great. Let me tell you what happened last night. I thought I would go and see if I could get some of those new nifty green items (didn't happen, but had a blast trying) so I thought, well, I should have some keys with me. I bought 5 shiverpeak keys and 2 miner keys, for about 4.5K. Ran around with henchies, killed everything I could find from DWC to the entrance to SF. Went in to SF and killed everything infront of locked areas. Unlocked a few chest, killed a bunch of bosses and picked up everything that dropped for me. How did it all end? Perfectly. I got absolutely nothing of useable value for my character. So why am I happy? Well, I got some cool weapons for my warrior and a great bow for my Ranger. I unlocked some runes and mod items. I salvaged a few things, the items that give iron or steel ingots, and sold everything else. I had 2 identical purple jeweled chalices that were worthless to use but sold for 300g a piece. After I purged my inventory of stuff I picked up I was able to deposit into my storage exactly 5K. I made 500g and I still have 3 shiverpeak keys left, and I unlocked a bunch of stuff. I truly feel that this is how Anet intended the game to be played. Master your skills, enjoy the game, and put within reach the ability to have a useful PvP character. I am having so much more fun now than I have in a while.

Sep 13, 2005, 11:22 PM // 23:22	#72
Thorin Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Nomad Guild: House Of Flying Drunkards [Lush] Profession: N/Me	I like the chests myself. Rarely did any of the old chests drop anything worth a damn. It's like gambling in Diablo 2. Most of the items will be crappy, but then you'll eventually get that awesome item, and it makes it all worth it.

Sep 13, 2005, 11:38 PM // 23:38	#74
Cat Tabby Academy Page Join Date: Jul 2005 Guild: Order of the Paw Profession: R/Mo	I love the keys and chests; why? because now i have some money. I have put in hundreds of hours on guildwars; completed the game with 2 chars and had a lot of fun. But I had never been able to afford half the decent items ppl sell in game. The best drop i had ever had was a gold hammer i sold for 8 k, and the most money i ever had at one time was about 40 k, and thats not for want of trying. Since the update I have bought about 10 shiverpeak keys and a few miners keys. Most have been not great but usable stuff, but I have unlocked loads of mods and runes. Two chests however were great. One gave me superior vigor, which I had already unlocked with faction, and i sold for 32 k. The other gave me a sword with +30 health mod, which i salvaged and sold for 75 k. I now have about 150k. Getting fissure armor now seems like a plausible be it distant possibility for me, and i am much more enthusiatic about going to the fow or uw. In short, the chests have opened up a whole new part of the game for me, aside from sorrows, which i also like. And thanks to the new green weapons, i dont have to spend stupid money on weapon mods, because I have a perfect weapon.

Sep 14, 2005, 12:23 AM // 00:23	#75
The milk shake Krytan Explorer Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Pre-Searing Ascalon Profession: R/	with the new key thing, its easy to get money but its EXTREMELY boring. Farming is like gone now, since its so mch easier to use a key to get gold, its like the crap runescape 100% of your time online farming for gold thing

Sep 15, 2005, 09:41 PM // 21:41	#76
prime stinger Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: England Guild: RoA Profession: R/	he best chests i think are the ones kilroy gives you, i got a max req 9 crystalline with +11%dmg in a stance so i think there the best, and if u dont belive come and have a loo k at it :P

Sep 16, 2005, 03:50 AM // 03:50	#79
Amused Observer Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Aug 2005	I personally luv the chest-n-key system. Pre-update, I've had a ton of instances where I ran up to a chest, opened it, and got . . . nothing. T_T I agree that the price of keys is an issue for most casual players, who wouldn't farm enough to build up a cash hoard to afford those higher end keys (think Phantom & Obsidian). But nonetheless, I appreciate this new system for mainly this reason: it allows the casual player a better chance of unlocking items for pvp; and I do believe the system was implemented by AN partly to allow players to unlock items for pvp more easily. If so, it's working.

Sep 17, 2005, 02:23 PM // 14:23	#80
Pandora's box Jungle Guide Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Netherlands Profession: Mo/W	Its a new way of gambling, nice for those who have too much gold What I would like to know: Are more expensive chests dropping better stuff? Or better odds for good stuff? What makes the difference?